Down with "Knights"!

I am curious about how the name “Knights” was selected as the official mascot for the new Creekside High School. At least the selection of “Creekside” had the appearance of some public input. The public was alerted by the Saint Johns Sun that a name was to be selected, when it was going to be selected, and by whom. We were given some time and opportunity to register our opinions in this matter. But what about the mascot name? Why was this decided without the same solicitation of input? Whose idea was it and when was it voted on? Was it voted on at all, or did someone make an executive decision?

I have several problems with the name “Knights” in addition to the lack of public contribution. First of all, “Knights” have nothing to do with our area or our history. As far as I know, there have never been any knights in Northern Florida, or anywhere in the U.S. – that is – except for the Knights of the KKK. We (many of us) already live in a place called a “plantation”. Might it not be wise to avoid such a possible future misconstrual of our intentions in naming our schools?

There is another set of negative connotations that come along with “Knights” – that which includes crusaders, invaders and holy warriors. In this day and age, might it not be wise to consider more carefully the image we project?

Lastly, the mascots for the other high schools in the county are: Bears, Falcons, Yellow Jackets, Panthers, Bucks and Sharks. In light of the obvious zoological trend we have already established, in addition to the possible problems listed above with the name “Knights”, perhaps we should reassess the mascot name for Creekside High and possibly consider an animal name. I can think of numerous good, locally-relevant, possibilities such as: Armadillos, Manatees, Otters, Mosquitos, Fire Ants, Eagles, Vultures, Moccasins, Rattlers, Dolphins, just to name a few.

I admire Principal Abbatinozzi for “hitting the ground running”. And I realize he is anxious to begin selling t-shirts and coffee mugs as soon as possible. However, this decision is critical to how we as a community broadcast ourselves to the larger world. So, before we start printing stationery and stenciling football helmets, might it not be wise to reconsider this decision?




Submitted by MarkPettus on Sun, 12/16/2007 - 1:21pm.

Actually, community input lead to the choice of "Knights" as the new school mascot. Here's a link to our story about the meeting where the mascot and school colors were chosen: 
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/120807/nes_223432850.shtml




Submitted by Gasbag on Mon, 12/17/2007 - 10:07am.

Thanks Mark, for the link to that story.

So, it seems that the name "Knights" was selected by the "principal's advisory council" in what was described as their second meeting, on November 27 of this year. Was the public invited to this meeting? Was the public invited to the first meeting? The article doesn't say.

Your article goes on to report that the "principal's advisory council" then went to the School Board with their recommendations for the new school's name, NOT the mascot name. In fact, the article states, "No matter what name the school eventually ends up with, its mascot will be a knight, its teams will be called the knights, and the school's colors will be cardinal red, black and white." And that "[t]he School Board does not have a say in the decision on the school's mascot or colors, so the Nov. 27 decision is final."

I don't know the composition of the "principal's advisory council", and there is nothing in the article that reveals any community input in its decision-making. What is clear from the article is that the School Board (a body directly accountable to the public) was NOT permitted any involvement in the decision of the new school's mascot. I am still looking for some hint of public participation in the "principal's advisory council" and its naming of the mascot. Perhaps there is a link to a story that I missed.




Submitted by Gasbag on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 9:06am.

Again, thank you Mark for providing the link. Unfortunately it doesn't answer my questions. I am still curious about some of the issues stated above.

I am especially interested in finding some evidence that "community input" led to the decision by the Principal's Advisory Council to name the new school's mascot "The Knights".

Who were/are the members of the Principal's Advisory Council?

How were these members selected, and by whom?

Why was the school board not permitted involvement in the selection of the mascot name?

If anybody has answers, I'd be grateful.



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